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Robin McClellan with David Morrison, who says men’s stories are celebrated differently to those of women.

10 minutes on leadership with … David Morrison

Leadership WA CEO Robin McClellan spoke to Australian of the Year and former chief of army, David Morrison about leadership and the need to ensure our culture is inclusive, not exclusive. 

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Sydney
"...a gender pay gap of 18.8%" False. I do wish people who are ignorant of the facts would cease perpetrating this absurd myth. When men and women who make the same personal choices about work (choice of occupation, hours worked/week, length of experience in the workforce) are compared, the remaining "unexplained gender pay gap" is only 1.4% for Australian workers. Sex discrimination *may* comprise a part of that 1.4%, but there are other factors at play as well. There's no further breakdown yet, which is why it's labelled "unexplained". The 18% figure is produced by comparing all men with all women and failing to account for the different work choices that women make. 18% is the "gender earnings gap" and it arises from personal choices that women make freely. The only way to close it is to force women to make different choices about the types of work they do and the number of hours that they work. Personally, I think women would prefer to still have free choice around their work, rather than being forced into specific roles and working hours in order to make some statistic look a little better.

Leadership Western Australia, Perth
Thanks, Eric, for weighing in. KPMG released a report today that addresses this question. (https://www.dca.org.au/News/News/Why-the-gender-pay-gap-persists.-New-Australian-research-out-today./546) Their work shows that "industry segregation" (women generally employed in lower-paying industries) accounts for about 19% of the pay gap. Part-time employment and career interruptions account for 4% and 21%, respectively. And straight out discrimination accounts for 38% of the pay gap. (A higher percentage, interestingly, than in 2007.)

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