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The holistic perspective you present here, Joel, is so refreshing. It takes the conversation away from me, myself and I as the victim, perpetrator or arbitrator and lifts it to the broader picture, which requires a collective response. Science, religion and philosophy are so intertwined that without 'going there' we cannot evolve, as you say. Brilliant. It is indeed a 'unified dialogue' that is needed here to demonstrate and live true leadership.